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August 22, 2004A Malaysian mystery
A Malaysian mystery Hi everyone, here is the article which chronologically fits behind "In the shaman's view". The first part of this piece talks about in part the political situation in Malaysia, and as such is deeply under researched. I hope Malaysian readers will take these possibly ill advised comments as the concern of a visiting friend, rather than the superior lecturing of a tourist. But I left Malaysia with many worries about the country. Not economic ones - I'm sure the country will continue to grow and become more prosperous. But socially and politically, I left with a deeply negative impression.
In Malaysia, if you want to marry a Malay, you must convert to Islam, and your children must be raised as Muslims. Non Muslims applying for University scholarships are encouraged to convert - the same goes for non Muslims wanting to hold elected offices. I've heard stories of trials for state junior football teams, and the non Malays kids are told they won't be picked unless there is still a gap once all the Malay hopefuls have been considered. The problem I have when considering these topics is that my sources have been very one sided. Every Malaysian who has been willing to discuss politics with me has been a non Malay, a non Muslim. Part of this is that most of the conversations I've had have been with non Malays - aside from that holiday group back on Cecil Island, I had a brief chat with a KLer my friend Gari met in over the internet, and had various very limited conversations with Malays in Kota Bharu and Kuala Terengganu. English ability was sometimes the source of lack of dialogue, but equally, these political / racial issues seem not ones Malays are generally happy talking about. In contrast, it is often the first thing non Malays have wanted to talk to me about.
-- Back in Bangkok - balmy hot interrupted by screaming torrential rain. I went back to the cake shop where I had made lots of friends a few months previous; Jom had got a new hair style and the girl doing the Law and Women's Studies masters degree had split up with her luke warm German boyfriend. "Probably for the best", I told her. She seemed much happier, and grinned, "Yes, now, just looking for the next one"! I met up with Richard and Tuely, who were beginning their six month trip from Thailand to Cuba. We had two very fun nights together - both were very nice people. Richard has this endearing tendency to slip into rather geeky thought exercises: "I thought to myself the other day, if Chiang Mai has a twentieth of the population of Bangkok, but say fifty percent of the tourists, then the impact of tourism...". Tuely has a lovely dry sense of humour that's obvious in her eyes. While the three of us were watching thai boxing in the Lumpini stadium, Richard remarked about the current lacklustre pair in the ring: "This bout is terrible; me and Tuely could probably put up more of a scrap than those two" - Tuely observed, "And have, on a few occasions". The rest of my time in Bangkok, I was busy getting a visa and plane ticket to India (curiously, you have to enter on the visa application form either your father or husband's name), a medical examination as required for my Australian working visa, and a long overdue trip to the dentist. Apparently my teeth, chest, blood pressure and urine are all normal. Scenes from Bangkok: The only decision was what to do in the days leading up to my flight to India on the 4th of September. I settled on two weeks yoga - and the only course not requiring a beginners' class at a too late date was this one: www.hathayogachiangmai.com Daniel, 20 August, Chiang Mai Comments
Malaysian will be sad to see you go though. And take it easy on the Aussies. Posted by: 'The Dee' on August 25, 2004 11:08 PMThat's an interesting observation there about Malaysia - I, for one, would also love to hear the other side of the argument. As for political news reading like press releases? They are press releases. I was 'lucky' enough to attend a political press conference once shortly after I graduated - being there was supposed to help me decide if I want to work for a radio station or be a journalist like I originally wanted. I applied to do a postgraduate degree in the UK in the end. And I think I won't get shot for this comment..... Posted by: Bertha on August 26, 2004 05:39 AMSad....you've been illadvise. Cannot help myself, knowing that this is not the appropriate forum. sadly, riana - daniel hasn't been ill-advised. he was told true stories by actual malaysians who were told to convert by the government if they wanted a scholarship or a government post. just because it may be hard for you to imagine, doesn't mean that it's not true. Posted by: Cayce on August 26, 2004 10:01 AMI am in Malaysia now and am noticing the things you have mentioned here. However, the Malaysians seem very nationalistic (at least in the incredible number of flags everywhere). There are definitely unfair affirmative action type policies in effect here (just like many other countries including the US) but I think it's on the mend, albeit slowly. I love all the culture that's here, the openness - I think we are also a lot more tolerant than many places I've been that are multi-cultural. Give us a few more years (ok, maybe we need more than a few) but I think the gap between the races will eventually be closed. Richard - it's our national day soon, that's why the flags are everywhere. Posted by: char on August 26, 2004 11:00 PMYes I read the newspaper today and there was quite a lot in there about forthcoming independence day so I only just understood the flags thing. Well said, Daniel. Well said. Malaysia hates confrontation. Thus it forbids its citizens to ruffle feathers. So what you get is a large proportion who feel frustrated without an outlet. And on that note, I shall shut up. Posted by: Marita Paige on August 27, 2004 03:50 PMWelcome to the absurdity that is Malaysian politics. There are some really messed up people in the government. Having said that there are those in high enough places who try to open up our normally conservative society, despite the fact that doing so will put their careers at risk. Don't worry about us though. We'll be fine. As for that religious conversion thing, yes in fact in college some attempts have been made to convert non-muslims, esp. us East Malaysians. I said no thanks. The only thing I can say about this is that, yes it happens but it's not official policy. It's just some people really have no respect whatsoever for others of different religious faith. See you soon mate. Have a nice journey. Posted by: mac on August 28, 2004 05:11 AMYes, there is discrimination, however that is an active industry in many parts of the World. You are from London, Daniel. If I am not mistaken, there is an issue about systematic and indeed, institutionalised discrimination in the Metropolitan Police Constabulary. Is this isolated ? or is it widely more prevalent in other institutions ? I am afraid that when rascism rears it's ugly head, a lot of people can rightfully feel victimised, and that is why, rather belatedly, efforts are in place to counter this in Malaysia. However, it's only right to add that this would take work and courage to implement, and that requires a willingness of all parties to be involved in this process. After all, like it or not, we are all Malaysians, and we have to stick together. In the Cabinet, we have had Chinese, Indian, Melanaus, Kadazans and indeed, up until the recent past a prominent Iban, who are members of their respective minorities in Malaysia. In Britain you have a Junior Minister in the Treasury and his name is Paul Boateng. Currently, He is the only highest ranked ethnic minority in your government. There you have it, a sneak preview of the "other side" of the coin. Not nice, but at times a bitter pill to swallow. I apologise if I have been disrespectful. Yours in blogdom, SP Posted by: SP on August 28, 2004 06:13 AMHi everyone, very pleased there are lots of views being put forward. Don't worry at all about saying what's on your mind - the only comments that I don't like are those cryptic one or two worders that don't make any sense. These aren't easy topics - well demonstrated by the differing views of the above comments. The comment that I feel I need to respond to is SP's. I really hope the article doesn't come across as the writings someone who believes their own country is flawless. If you've read my pieces on living in London and on "Englishness", I make a lot of criticisms of England / the UK. In fact I've received various emails from English readers complaining that I am too harsh, that the real problem is that English people complain too much about things that aren't serious. I think the problems are serious, and I agree completely with the issues of British racial discrimination that you mention. My outlook for this internet diary is that I will say what is good and bad, as I see it, in each country I visit, including the one I come from. Many of the issues being discussed here could indeed be applied to any country in the world. I do think we all need to encourage and critise each other, to help us all move forward. We are all, to use a worn cliche, one human race, living (somewhat precariously at present) on one planet. That's all I wanted to say, everyone please feel free to leave more comments, respond to this comment, or if you'd prefer, email me. Daniel - I finished my yoga course today!! Horay!!
Yay for finishing yoga course! Congratulations! :) For what it's worth, Daniel, I don't think you were being biased in your views at all. It's utter defensiveness (your country is no better than mine so what gives you the right to criticise mine and other like comments) that doesn't get us anywhere because it stops all avenues of dialogue and discussions. No country or government institution is perfect. Ignoring the obvious isn't going to make things go away magically - the problems will still be there. And yes, shutting up now. Posted by: Bertha on August 28, 2004 08:13 PMDaniel, Hi Pauli, well, for Bangkok I'd recommend "Time runs faster here"; for Malaysia, "One hundred lashes in toy town", "Travelling on a wooden bench", "You don't need beer to have fun" and "From the wiggle of a bum". I haven't been to Vietnam. If you are going to Singapore and want to see an colonial era building, visit the Mitre Hotel, assuming it hasn't fallen down by the time you arrive! Chiang Mai is a good place to visit, several older beautiful buildings, if you have time for a trip there. Daniel - it does sound a lovely view... Posted by: Daniel on September 4, 2004 01:51 AMWang Suan Phakkat, which means the Lettuce Farm Palace. Hi Daniel. Thanks very much for the reply, I have already started reading the blogs you mentioned. Especially interesting about Bangkok because I have no idea what to expect. Seems like everybody and his wife has been to Bangkok but nobody stays very long, yet there must be fascinating places to see. I read about the private Bangkok garden called The Lettuce Farm Palace, made by the late Princess Chumbhot. It is open daily from 9 to 4. I also found a good web site called www.smartTravelAsia.com, it has info about India etc. but perhaps you already know about this. Hope your next trip is good. Look forward to reading about it. Cheers, Pauli Posted by: pauli on September 5, 2004 09:05 PM |
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